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Discover Hertford Online ForumTalk about Hertford 2019-04-24T11:15:39+01:00 https://www.hertford.net/discussion/app.php/feed/topic/782 2019-04-24T11:15:39+01:002019-04-24T11:15:39+01:00 https://www.hertford.net/discussion/viewtopic.php?t=782&p=6278#p6278 <![CDATA[Re: Bengeo Gravel Extraction]]> Statistics:Posted by codek2 — Wed 24 Apr, 2019 11:15 am


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no. It's west of the 414 and south of the b195. also ex quarried land, legally i guess. where the tip is essentially.
Ah, Birchall Garden Suburb - 2550 homes south east of WGC (link: http://www.tarmac.com/birchall-garden-suburb). Not exactly between Hertford and WGC to my mind, but that's probably by-the-by. A brief read of the new District Plan suggests the land is not Green Belt.
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2019-04-21T18:46:23+01:002019-04-21T18:46:23+01:00 https://www.hertford.net/discussion/viewtopic.php?t=782&p=6274#p6274 <![CDATA[Re: Bengeo Gravel Extraction]]> Statistics:Posted by codek2 — Sun 21 Apr, 2019 6:46 pm


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2019-04-21T12:21:59+01:002019-04-21T12:21:59+01:00 https://www.hertford.net/discussion/viewtopic.php?t=782&p=6273#p6273 <![CDATA[Re: Bengeo Gravel Extraction]]>
isn't the development being planned in between welwyn and hertford green belt? And that one is huge.

I'm not sure that green belt counts for much any more. Sure there'll be protests, but at the end of the day the houses are needed somewhere.
I'm not sure which "huge" development between Welwyn and Hertford you're talking about. Do you mean HERT3 to the North of Welwyn Road and west of Thieves Lane? This land was removed from the green belt in the latest District Plan and is earmarked for 550 homes in total. It is no longer Green Belt land. The area to the north of Welwyn Road especially is has not been very green over the last couple of decades, especially after the illegal gravel extraction.

The Green Belt is protected in both the District Plan and the National Planning Policy Framework. The boundaries rarely change, except when policies are periodically reviewed and require approval from The Planning Inspectorate.

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2019-04-21T07:54:50+01:002019-04-21T07:54:50+01:00 https://www.hertford.net/discussion/viewtopic.php?t=782&p=6272#p6272 <![CDATA[Re: Bengeo Gravel Extraction]]>
I'm not sure that green belt counts for much any more. Sure there'll be protests, but at the end of the day the houses are needed somewhere.

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I think Smudger means that n most cases, when they've extracted all the aggregates they can from a quarry, it gets landscaped and returned to nature in the form of parkland/wetlands etc. Because people campaigned to stop it, the obvious alternative to a quarry will be a nice new housing estate
I'm fairly sure one of councils involved were in favour of the quarry because it would declassify greenbelt land and allow them to put a housing estate on it afterwards. I don't think I imagined it, anyone got a reference?
The presence of the quarry would not change it's green belt status. Mineral extraction is allowed in the green belt due to it's "temporary" nature.

The District Council raised no objection "in principle" to the quarry, (which is not necessarily the same as supporting it). There was some discussion at the appeal about the relationship with the 150 homes earmarked for HERT4 on the old nursery site and to the immediate north, but this land was not part of the quarry application and not green belt.

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I think Smudger means that n most cases, when they've extracted all the aggregates they can from a quarry, it gets landscaped and returned to nature in the form of parkland/wetlands etc. Because people campaigned to stop it, the obvious alternative to a quarry will be a nice new housing estate
I'm fairly sure one of councils involved were in favour of the quarry because it would declassify greenbelt land and allow them to put a housing estate on it afterwards. I don't think I imagined it, anyone got a reference?

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2019-04-17T18:02:31+01:002019-04-17T18:02:31+01:00 https://www.hertford.net/discussion/viewtopic.php?t=782&p=6269#p6269 <![CDATA[Re: Bengeo Gravel Extraction]]>
I think Smudger means that n most cases, when they've extracted all the aggregates they can from a quarry, it gets landscaped and returned to nature in the form of parkland/wetlands etc. Because people campaigned to stop it, the obvious alternative to a quarry will be a nice new housing estate
There's not a cat-in-hell's chance of that happening (which is why it wouldn't have been mentioned in the leaflets).

It's green belt so housing wouldn't be allowed. In fact the Secretary Of State specifically mentioned the amenity value of the field as a reason for dismissing the appeal.

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2019-04-17T15:36:42+01:002019-04-17T15:36:42+01:00 https://www.hertford.net/discussion/viewtopic.php?t=782&p=6268#p6268 <![CDATA[Re: Bengeo Gravel Extraction]]> Statistics:Posted by thefair1973 — Wed 17 Apr, 2019 3:36 pm


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2019-04-15T02:12:35+01:002019-04-15T02:12:35+01:00 https://www.hertford.net/discussion/viewtopic.php?t=782&p=6267#p6267 <![CDATA[Re: Bengeo Gravel Extraction]]>
Well done to the stop Bengeo Quarry campaigners.
They've stopped a quarry that would have been a public park in 20 years time.
Now there will be houses forever.

Didn't put that in the leaflets did they
You're going to have to explain that one to me

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2019-04-14T14:32:23+01:002019-04-14T14:32:23+01:00 https://www.hertford.net/discussion/viewtopic.php?t=782&p=6266#p6266 <![CDATA[Re: Bengeo Gravel Extraction]]> They've stopped a quarry that would have been a public park in 20 years time.
Now there will be houses forever.

Didn't put that in the leaflets did they

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https://www.hertford.net/local-news/?id=165

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http://stopbengeoquarry.org.uk/2017/03/ ... ermission/

http://www.hertfordshiremercury.co.uk/h ... story.html

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Also, some people appear to believe that the application relates to the old Rickneys site. The proposed site is currently agricultural land immediately north of Bengeo.
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