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Discover Hertford Online ForumTalk about Hertford 2014-01-15T12:30:58+01:00 https://www.hertford.net/discussion/app.php/feed/topic/77 2014-01-15T12:30:58+01:002014-01-15T12:30:58+01:00 https://www.hertford.net/discussion/viewtopic.php?t=77&p=740#p740 <![CDATA[Re: Train Cancellation/Station Skipping]]> Statistics:Posted by MrsG — Wed 15 Jan, 2014 12:30 pm


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I'm getting sick and tired of 'signalling problems'!
I've given up on the trains and now cycle to work (in Stevenage) every day. Cold, wet and miserable it may be at the moment, but I'm warmed by the thought that I haven't given FCC a single penny so far this year 8-) .

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2014-01-13T12:55:31+01:002014-01-13T12:55:31+01:00 https://www.hertford.net/discussion/viewtopic.php?t=77&p=720#p720 <![CDATA[Re: Train Cancellation/Station Skipping]]>
I'm not sure if it's First Capitial Connect that are the problem or Network Rail, i suspect the latter but either way the service has gone to the dogs these past 3 months.

So much so it might be time to move to a town near the mainline........Fast train from Stevenage took 14mins to Finsbury Park! On the Hertford line we'd be lucky to make Cuffley in that time currently!

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2014-01-13T09:48:07+01:002014-01-13T09:48:07+01:00 https://www.hertford.net/discussion/viewtopic.php?t=77&p=716#p716 <![CDATA[Re: Train Cancellation/Station Skipping]]>
08:03 Moorgate to Stevenage due 08:59
More info
This train will no longer call at Palmers Green, Winchmore Hill, Enfield Chase, Gordon Hill, Cuffley and Hertford North.
This is due to signalling problems.

Taken from the First Capital Connect website

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2014-01-13T08:27:27+01:002014-01-13T08:27:27+01:00 https://www.hertford.net/discussion/viewtopic.php?t=77&p=715#p715 <![CDATA[Re: Train Cancellation/Station Skipping]]>
Oh I only commuted for 20 odd years before giving up and driving to and from work.

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2014-01-11T19:57:39+01:002014-01-11T19:57:39+01:00 https://www.hertford.net/discussion/viewtopic.php?t=77&p=706#p706 <![CDATA[Re: Train Cancellation/Station Skipping]]> Statistics:Posted by robbiebgg — Sat 11 Jan, 2014 7:57 pm


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2013-12-23T19:10:33+01:002013-12-23T19:10:33+01:00 https://www.hertford.net/discussion/viewtopic.php?t=77&p=486#p486 <![CDATA[Re: Train Cancellation/Station Skipping]]>
You're paying FCC a hell of a lot of money to inconvenience you. But if you're happy with it, well that's your choice.

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2013-12-23T18:41:42+01:002013-12-23T18:41:42+01:00 https://www.hertford.net/discussion/viewtopic.php?t=77&p=484#p484 <![CDATA[Re: Train Cancellation/Station Skipping]]>
simply not true john smith, i've NEVER been on a service where they skipped stops. it seems we have another rgs rick on the forum, about time there was another troll around. Echoing kates comments - they do generally provide a good service and 90% of the time they dont is down to network rail.
If someone can explain to me how I can upload a picture I can show you a recent example of FCC skipping stops.

I am not trolling, just telling the truth which some of you, inexplicaby, refuse to believe.

If you received this sort of service from a shop or restaurant would you go back?

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2013-12-23T18:36:48+01:002013-12-23T18:36:48+01:00 https://www.hertford.net/discussion/viewtopic.php?t=77&p=483#p483 <![CDATA[Re: Train Cancellation/Station Skipping]]> Statistics:Posted by codek2 — Mon 23 Dec, 2013 6:36 pm


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2013-12-23T10:13:45+01:002013-12-23T10:13:45+01:00 https://www.hertford.net/discussion/viewtopic.php?t=77&p=468#p468 <![CDATA[Re: Train Cancellation/Station Skipping]]>
well if in the operators favour means that one service is mullered but subsequent services are therefore on time, then that is clearly also in the customers favour too. If the service continues then potentially it will remain late all day long. there's no other way to do it.

however; I've never seen this on firstcc before until the last few weeks, so it does either seem desperation, or a new policy!
First Capital Connect have been doing it for years. As the original poster says, it is to keep their figures good.

They have forgotten that their purpose is to move people from A to B, not empty trains.

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2013-12-23T09:46:55+01:002013-12-23T09:46:55+01:00 https://www.hertford.net/discussion/viewtopic.php?t=77&p=464#p464 <![CDATA[Re: Train Cancellation/Station Skipping]]>
And when you do, it's going to be extremely packed.

So it's depend on which train you are on when a train is cancelled if it benefits you I would say.

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2013-12-22T11:15:04+01:002013-12-22T11:15:04+01:00 https://www.hertford.net/discussion/viewtopic.php?t=77&p=461#p461 <![CDATA[Re: Train Cancellation/Station Skipping]]>
however; I've never seen this on firstcc before until the last few weeks, so it does either seem desperation, or a new policy!

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2013-12-21T12:52:38+01:002013-12-21T12:52:38+01:00 https://www.hertford.net/discussion/viewtopic.php?t=77&p=458#p458 <![CDATA[Re: Train Cancellation/Station Skipping]]> Statistics:Posted by jasmine98 — Sat 21 Dec, 2013 12:52 pm


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2013-12-20T19:23:16+01:002013-12-20T19:23:16+01:00 https://www.hertford.net/discussion/viewtopic.php?t=77&p=449#p449 <![CDATA[Train Cancellation/Station Skipping]]>
After another cancelled train to HFE (Wednesday's 5.11), I am starting to form the opinion that train cancellation (apart from when there is a genuine fault) happens to artificial keep operators train "on time" records up.

Sure a cancelled train is a blot on the record, but having 1 cancelled trains with 2 trains "on time" versus 3 late trains, I am guessing operator prefer the former.

It's not great for the commuter as they have to get packed into a train , IF indeed they can get on.

Maybe getting how performance is monitored to say, 1 cancelled train for non-faults is equivalent to 1 hour late train may change what happens.

Amusingly, on Thursday on the way to work, due to the train running late, they *skipped* a stop (luckily I wasn't stopping there) .. surely that's another method to massage the figures, skipping stop should also incur a similar penalty too.

I must admit it's the first time I've seen a station skipped, anyone else experienced it before?

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