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Discover Hertford Online ForumTalk about Hertford 2019-05-05T21:44:36+01:00 https://www.hertford.net/discussion/app.php/feed/forum/13 2019-05-05T21:44:36+01:002019-05-05T21:44:36+01:00 https://www.hertford.net/discussion/viewtopic.php?t=995&p=6294#p6294 <![CDATA[Rail Users Forum • Re: Oyster coming to Hertford North]]> Statistics:Posted by Toady — Sun 05 May, 2019 9:44 pm

]]> 2019-03-25T19:46:44+01:002019-03-25T19:46:44+01:00 https://www.hertford.net/discussion/viewtopic.php?t=764&p=6256#p6256 <![CDATA[Rail Users Forum • Re: New trains on Hertford North route announced]]>
Positives are:
Very spacious
The internet via the onboard wifi works all the way to the Bayford tunnel
Clear automated announcements of next station
Power socket between each pair of seats
Air conditioning works well (although anything is better than the freezer / blast furnace of the 313s)
Text indicator boards in the carriages (but they weren't working)
Quieter ride due to sealed windows
The ride seemed to be more smooth except for that bit near Cuffley
You can walk through the entire length of the train to find a seat (but see first negative!)

Negatives:
Fewer seats (100 fewer per 6 carriage train)
The seats are rock hard
Poor leg room
Very little to hold on to when you're moving down the carriage and the train is moving

Not sure if it is a negative / positive, but the data allowance for the wifi is 50MB. That appears to be for each journey as I got 50MB in the morning and another 50MB in the evening.

I didn't travel past Drayton Park so not sure how they are handling the issue of drivers having to stop short to see the signals, which means you can't use the doors on the rear carriage. Rumour has it that they had a member of staff on the platform to see the driver off.

Statistics:Posted by JohnSmith — Mon 25 Mar, 2019 7:46 pm

]]> 2019-03-25T19:35:10+01:002019-03-25T19:35:10+01:00 https://www.hertford.net/discussion/viewtopic.php?t=995&p=6255#p6255 <![CDATA[Rail Users Forum • Re: Oyster coming to Hertford North]]>
I made the mistake of tapping in at Alexandra Palace with my Oyster card on the way home today. Luckily for me (sort of) it turns out that Oyster is being trialled this week so I was able to tap out at Hertford North. And it worked.

This and new trains on the same day. It's almost too much to take in.

Statistics:Posted by JohnSmith — Mon 25 Mar, 2019 7:35 pm

]]> 2019-03-23T09:49:47+01:002019-03-23T09:49:47+01:00 https://www.hertford.net/discussion/viewtopic.php?t=995&p=6252#p6252 <![CDATA[Rail Users Forum • Re: Oyster coming to Hertford North]]> Statistics:Posted by JohnSmith — Sat 23 Mar, 2019 9:49 am

]]> 2019-03-23T09:48:25+01:002019-03-23T09:48:25+01:00 https://www.hertford.net/discussion/viewtopic.php?t=764&p=6251#p6251 <![CDATA[Rail Users Forum • Re: New trains on Hertford North route announced]]>
2 new units will enter service next week. so they beat hertford east *just*!
My son found this on a train forum. The 07.28 Stevenage to Moorgate is the 07.44 from Hertford. Think I'll give it a go.

HE51
5K02 05+32 Hornsey Depot to Finsbury Park
2K02 05.41 Finsbury Park to Moorgate
2F04 06.07 Moorgate to Stevenage via Hertford
2J30 07.28 Stevenage to Moorgate via Hertford
2V33 08.45 Moorgate to Welwyn GC
2K50 09.38 Welwyn GC to Moorgate
2F52 10.41 Moorgate to Watton-at-Stone
5J71 11+53 Watton-at-Stone to Watton-at-Stone via Langley Junction
2J71 12.11 Watton-at-Stone to Moorgate
2V73 13.20 Moorgate to Welwyn GC
5I00 14+14 Welwyn GC to Welwyn GC via Reverse Sidings
2K00 14.39 Welwyn GC to Moorgate
2F02 15.40 Moorgate to Watton-at-Stone
5J27 16+40 Watton-at-Stone to Watton-at-Stone via Langley Junction
2J27 16.59 Watton-at-Stone to Moorgate
2V28 18.00 Moorgate to Welwyn GC
2K46 18.58 Welwyn GC to Moorgate
2B48 19.55 Moorgate to Hertford North
2J63 21.00 Hertford North to Moorgate
2V65 22.00 Moorgate to Welwyn GC
5E65 22+58 Welwyn GC to Hornsey Depot

HE53
3B20 06+32 Hornsey Depot to Gordon Hill
2J20 07.11 Gordon Hill to Moorgate
2G22 07.55 Moorgate to Gordon Hill
2J38 08.41 Gordon Hill to Moorgate
2B40 09.25 Moorgate to Hertford North
2J57 10.30 Hertford North to Moorgate
2V59 11.30 Moorgate to Welwyn GC
2K72 12.28 Welwyn GC to Moorgate
2B74 13.25 Moorgate to Hertford North
2J89 14.30 Hertford North to Moorgate
2V01 15.30 Moorgate to Welwyn GC
2K18 16.28 Welwyn GC to Moorgate
2G25 17.25 Moorgate to Gordon Hill
2J37 18.12 Gordon Hill to Moorgate
2G40 18.55 Moorgate to Gordon Hill
5E89 19+42 Gordon Hill to Hornsey Depot

Statistics:Posted by JohnSmith — Sat 23 Mar, 2019 9:48 am

]]> 2019-03-22T18:45:56+01:002019-03-22T18:45:56+01:00 https://www.hertford.net/discussion/viewtopic.php?t=764&p=6250#p6250 <![CDATA[Rail Users Forum • Re: New trains on Hertford North route announced]]>
Although the most recent problems seem to be lack of drivers....

Statistics:Posted by Kateg28 — Fri 22 Mar, 2019 6:45 pm

]]> 2019-03-22T08:22:25+01:002019-03-22T08:22:25+01:00 https://www.hertford.net/discussion/viewtopic.php?t=764&p=6249#p6249 <![CDATA[Rail Users Forum • Re: New trains on Hertford North route announced]]> Statistics:Posted by codek2 — Fri 22 Mar, 2019 8:22 am

]]> 2019-03-11T22:45:56+01:002019-03-11T22:45:56+01:00 https://www.hertford.net/discussion/viewtopic.php?t=764&p=6241#p6241 <![CDATA[Rail Users Forum • Re: New trains on Hertford North route announced]]>
oh really? the daily mail eh? come on.

Those trains are running perfectly fine on the great northern. yes, they're slightly different, but come on.
A bit more than slightly different, but that’s not the point.
The point is that the signals can’t be seen properly unless the train stops short of the platform edge, which then leaves a blind spot. Pain in the back side, but that’s the way it is, for the moment at least. Rumours flying around that there will be permanent solutions to this in the next few years or so

Statistics:Posted by toplad — Mon 11 Mar, 2019 10:45 pm

]]> 2019-03-10T19:32:51+01:002019-03-10T19:32:51+01:00 https://www.hertford.net/discussion/viewtopic.php?t=764&p=6237#p6237 <![CDATA[Rail Users Forum • Re: New trains on Hertford North route announced]]>
Those trains are running perfectly fine on the great northern. yes, they're slightly different, but come on.

Statistics:Posted by codek2 — Sun 10 Mar, 2019 7:32 pm

]]> 2019-03-10T14:37:14+01:002019-03-10T14:37:14+01:00 https://www.hertford.net/discussion/viewtopic.php?t=764&p=6234#p6234 <![CDATA[Rail Users Forum • Re: New trains on Hertford North route announced]]> Statistics:Posted by JohnSmith — Sun 10 Mar, 2019 2:37 pm

]]> 2019-03-10T03:22:39+01:002019-03-10T03:22:39+01:00 https://www.hertford.net/discussion/viewtopic.php?t=764&p=6232#p6232 <![CDATA[Rail Users Forum • Re: New trains on Hertford North route announced]]>
Two new trains were due to be brought into service on Monday (11 March) but this was pulled on Friday.

We've had "Autumn 2018", "early 2019", "soon" when Mark Prisk met GN representatives a couple of weeks ago.

All 25 of the new units are now in the UK, sat in sidings ready to be used.

The old trains seem to be breaking down on a more frequent basis of late.

I'm sure there is some sort of Brexit analogy here.
Not looking promising

"A £240 million fleet of new trains is 'gathering dust' because a design flaw means drivers cannot fully see out of the front window."

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... anger.html

Statistics:Posted by Steve — Sun 10 Mar, 2019 3:22 am

]]> 2019-03-09T23:21:07+01:002019-03-09T23:21:07+01:00 https://www.hertford.net/discussion/viewtopic.php?t=764&p=6231#p6231 <![CDATA[Rail Users Forum • Re: New trains on Hertford North route announced]]>
We've had "Autumn 2018", "early 2019", "soon" when Mark Prisk met GN representatives a couple of weeks ago.

All 25 of the new units are now in the UK, sat in sidings ready to be used.

The old trains seem to be breaking down on a more frequent basis of late.

I'm sure there is some sort of Brexit analogy here.

Statistics:Posted by JohnSmith — Sat 09 Mar, 2019 11:21 pm

]]> 2019-03-05T15:26:16+01:002019-03-05T15:26:16+01:00 https://www.hertford.net/discussion/viewtopic.php?t=995&p=6223#p6223 <![CDATA[Rail Users Forum • Re: Oyster coming to Hertford North]]> Statistics:Posted by codek2 — Tue 05 Mar, 2019 3:26 pm

]]> 2019-03-04T21:13:13+01:002019-03-04T21:13:13+01:00 https://www.hertford.net/discussion/viewtopic.php?t=995&p=6221#p6221 <![CDATA[Rail Users Forum • Re: Oyster coming to Hertford North]]>
I wonder if they will cut the price of a season ticket from HFN to the same level as HFE. Currently it is £150 cheaper from HFE...

Statistics:Posted by highwood38 — Mon 04 Mar, 2019 9:13 pm

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https://tfl.gov.uk/fares/find-fares/tub ... tcmp=54716

It confirms mid-March.

Single fare from Hertford North to Moorgate is £8.50 (peak) and £5.80 (off peak). Return is double these fares.

Currently, single is £11.50 (peak) and £11.50 (off peak)
Returns are £18.00 (peak) and £12.30 (off peak)

So, if you travel in to London and only buy daily tickets then you will be better off. Hertford North doesn't yet appear on the travelcard prices page.

Statistics:Posted by JohnSmith — Sun 03 Mar, 2019 11:13 pm

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